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PostSubject: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:00 pm

To those planning to try out for U16 and U17, make a serious analysis of your chances before trying out as their cost of trying out is very expensive $225. Many times, past year players becomes lock. For eg, if U16 team has 9 spots for one team, previous year of U15 team that had 10 players gets preferred look. In other words, most of the new players dont get good look or no look. Not dissing Basketball bc or its functioning, but an advise to the players to spend wisely before making a decision. Club tryouts are cheaper and assured of spots and you get the same good training.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sat Mar 24, 2012 12:31 am

I am assuming that you have never been to one of the camps. I have checked out numerous of the camps in the past. I watched one where more than one Provincial Team member from the year before did not even make it to the selection camp the weekend after. I have also watched camps where players that were not very well known by the coaches there did very well, moved on to the selection camp, and made the team.

At the camp; work your tail off the entire time, work as hard or even harder on D as on O (take a charge!), be a leader, be positive, and remember that you never know when you are being watched.

I look forward to seeing the high level of athlete that represents BC on Provincial Teams, as well as on all of the other club teams.

It should be a fun summer!
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:17 am

It's unfortunate that there's the perception that the tryouts for provincial teams are unfair, bias, and even predetermined. It simply couldn't be any less true. These rumors are started by bitter players, parents and coaches of the kids who got cut.

As far as past provincial team players being favored, just look at this past year. Only two players on this year's u17 team made it every year from u14-u17. Only 5 players from the previous u16 were selected to this years u17 team. Only 6 players from the 2009 u15 team were still selected for this year's u17 team. Two players-Mitrovic and Ligertwood- were Drive players every year until last summer and had no past experience with Basketball BC, yet made the team. Isaiah Solomon went from starting on the u15 provincial team to getting outright cut as a u16, and then becoming the starting point guard the next year on the u17 team. Jake Newman, if I'm not mistaken, was cut from both the Blue and the Red team as a u15, and then made both the u16 and u17 team the two following years.


The best players from the tryouts are the ones who make the team.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:06 am

Where are the tryouts usually held? and How many people usually try out?
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:13 pm

lukester0506 wrote:
Where are the tryouts usually held? and How many people usually try out?

Normally held at one of the vancouver high school gym.

To daunteculpepper and Omniscient, spending $225 for try outs is tough for many. 100% sure this high cost for try-outs is going to turn away good players. So I still say to aspiring players to spend their money wisely.


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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sun Mar 25, 2012 4:34 pm

I have to agree with Edwards earlier post as I have gone to many of these try outs over the years and just dont think there worth the money anymore.I think that with the quality of club teams that its a better way to go. Just take a look at this years winners from FOX.Not a single guy on any of these teams but they play on their club teams all summer and work on chemistry and fundamentals.


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lukester0506 wrote:
Where are the tryouts usually held? and How many people usually try out?

Normally held at one of the vancouver high school gym.

To daunteculpepper and Omniscient, spending $225 for try outs is tough for many. 100% sure this high cost for try-outs is going to turn away good players. So I still say to aspiring players to spend their money wisely.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:30 am

Tryout fees of clubs:

AllBall - $25

Drive - $50

Athelite -$35 includes jersey

3D - $50 (early bird discount$15 and 3D gear included )

Basketball BC - $225.

Most of the clubs have many open runs before the try outs so that players get the feel of the club/coaches/teammates beforehand.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:01 am

I think what players and parents need to remember is that Basketball BC U16 and U17 tryouts are not just a "tryout" but are a complete development camp. Most tryouts just involve playing games and scrimmaging where coaches will evaluate and make selections but Basketball BC is running a complete development camp. The camp has many Pacwest, CIS, and High School coaches who work at the camp giving instruction and evaluation. The camp offers the opportunity for players across BC to come for three days and not only get a chance to get excellent instruction but also compete against the best U16 and U17 players across BC. In addition to drills, competitions and evaluation the players will also get plenty of opportunity to compete in games officiated by BCBOA officials. Also most of the CIS and Pacwest coaches who are not working the camp will stop by to watch and look for potential recruits. After the camp is over anywhere from 25 to 30 campers will be invited back the following weekend to tryout for the 18 spots on the BC teams and there is no charge for this tryout. As mentioned the cost is $225.00 which is not cheap but players do get a BBC and CB basketball membership, t-shirt, shorts, sack pack, and reversible jersey and over 16 hours of instruction and games. If you look at the cost of most basketball camps the overall value is extremely good.
I also realize that there has been some confusion about the new format for the U16 & U17 BC teams. This year there will be 18 players selected for both the U16 and U17 teams and they will be divided in to two teams of 9 for all of the summer competitions leading up to the National and Western Canada Championships. The 18 players will train together under 3 coaches and then divide in to two teams for competitions thus enabling for more playing time opportunities in games. At each age level the top 9 players will be picked after the ID camp and will be on the team for the entire summer including the National Championship for the U17's and the Western Canadian Championships for the U16's. The remaining 9 players will compete for all competitions up until the end of July and then 3 players from the second 9 will be added to the teams travelling for Nationals and Western Canadians.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:38 am

[quote="ebe"]I think what players and parents need to remember is that Basketball BC U16 and U17 tryouts are not just a "tryout" but are a complete development camp. Most tryouts just involve playing games and scrimmaging where coaches will evaluate and make selections but Basketball BC is running a complete development camp. The camp has many Pacwest, CIS, and High School coaches who work at the camp giving instruction and evaluation. The camp offers the opportunity for players across BC to come for three days and not only get a chance to get excellent instruction but also compete against the best U16 and U17 players across BC. In addition to drills, competitions and evaluation the players will also get plenty of opportunity to compete in games officiated by BCBOA officials. Also most of the CIS and Pacwest coaches who are not working the camp will stop by to watch and look for potential recruits. After the camp is over anywhere from 25 to 30 campers will be invited back the following weekend to tryout for the 18 spots on the BC teams and there is no charge for this tryout. As mentioned the cost is $225.00 which is not cheap but players do get a BBC and CB basketball membership, t-shirt, shorts, sack pack, and reversible jersey and over 16 hours of instruction and games. If you look at the cost of most basketball camps the overall value is extremely good.
I also realize that there has been some confusion about the new format for the U16 & U17 BC teams. This year there will be 18 players selected for both the U16 and U17 teams and they will be divided in to two teams of 9 for all of the summer competitions leading up to the National and Western Canada Championships. The 18 players will train together under 3 coaches and then divide in to two teams for competitions thus enabling for more playing time opportunities in games. At each age level the top 9 players will be picked after the ID camp and will be on the team for the entire summer including the National Championship for the U17's and the Western Canadian Championships for the U16's. The remaining 9 players will compete for all competitions up until the end of July and then 3 players from the second 9 will be added to the teams travelling for Nationals and Western Canadians. [/quote]


Ebe, Basketball BC has done an amazing job with their provincial program but I don't really think you can say that kids "have a chance to also compete against the best U16 and U17 players across BC" when clearly the top players in the u17 and the u16 (particularly the u16) age group is dominated by players that attend Drive. That's not even including the u15, u14 age groups as well which in my opinion include the "best" players in their province. Again, no disrespect to the provincial team as it carves out many fantastic CIS level players year in and year out.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Mar 30, 2012 1:19 pm

Love your work Coach Ebe. Always respect you for your work and ethics and now it has increased few notches for admitting the high-cost. If you say this is not a try out, then have to dissent with you on justification though. CP/RTC is costing like $600 for about more or less 70 hrs which is far more competitive and that is where all talented kids including kids that go to Drive and other clubs play against each other. Definitely the kids are not getting the same high level of instructions. I have been to these super camps where they normally do 1 on 1, 2 on 2, 3 on 3, 5 on 5 scrimmages and lot of talking. We all know you do not have any role in setting the price and if you do get a chance, pretty sure you won’t set this astronomical price.

Supercamp is a severely watered down event in comparison with CP and RTC.

Chance to get seen by CIS/college coaches are not going to sell as they can see the kids anywhere during the season. Coaches smell talents miles away and are seen everywhere these days.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Apr 06, 2012 4:27 am

Great first day at the U17 SuperCamp. Over 70 kids turned out and competed hard on the first night. We go all day tomorrow from 9:30am to 5pm. Scrimmage times will be 10:45am to 11:45am and then again 3:25pm to 5:00pm. Feel free to come on by and watch some of BC's best getting after it as we help them work on their development and also try to evaulate potential BC U17 team members. Special thanks to the coaches tonight who did a great job
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:35 am

Another fun day at Supercamp even though it was a long tough day. Boys worked hard and showed great energy especially in the last scrimmages of the night and I was impressed with how competitive everyone was. Also some very good sessions by the coaches on positional play. We will have some very tough decison as we head in to the last day.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:58 pm

A big thanks to all of the athletes who came out and participated in the U17 Supercamp. It was a great three days of competiton and development with all of the players and coaches working hard and putting in a great effort. Congratulations to the following athletes who have been selected to take part in the U17 selection camp this weekend.
Mason Loewen
Denver Sparks-Guest
JJ Pankratz
L. Jordan Charles
Kosia Cauw
Jamie Madewan
Devin Brar
Giovanni Trasolini
Josh Klassen
Joel Lutz
Josh Kurucz
George Mija
Chase Ruttenberg
Liam Horne
Tyus Allen
Montell Lingren
Luka Petkovic
Milos Lazic
Christian Mair
Jerod Dorby
Trevor Casey
Aaron Madaisky
Braydon Belleville
Alex Hart
Jesse Mushiana
Sebastian Marshall
Elijah Hillis-Gold
Jaquin Boire-Bennett
Matt Hampton
Peter Spanghel





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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:49 am

First night of the selection camp went well and all of the boys worked hard and competed at a very high level. We will wrap things up tomorrow in the early evening and it is going to be a very difficult task selecting the final 18 for this years BC U17 team.

I was told that the first day of the U16 Supercamp was very good today with 65 players participating. The U16 camp continues tomorrow and Sunday at Walnut Grove.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:58 am

ebe wrote:
First night of the selection camp went well and all of the boys worked hard and competed at a very high level. We will wrap things up tomorrow in the early evening and it is going to be a very difficult task selecting the final 18 for this years BC U17 team.

I was told that the first day of the U16 Supercamp was very good today with 65 players participating. The U16 camp continues tomorrow and Sunday at Walnut Grove.

Great Job today Ebe! It was great watching and it was extremely well organized! Well done! I will come back tomorrow! Very Happy
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PostSubject: U16 SuperCamp   Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:39 am

Outstanding first night at the U16 SuperCamp. About 65 boys went through transition games, position work, defensive tactics, and some very competitive scrimmages. The energy and talk in the gym was fantastic. The coaching staff was very impressed with the level of play. Camp continues tomorrow at 9am at Walnut Grove. Morning games run from 10:45 until 11:45; afternoon games begin at 3:30 and go until 5pm.
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PostSubject: U16 SuperCamp   Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:24 pm

The second day of the U16 SuperCamp wrapped up today at Walnut Grove. Players spent a full day competing hard in drill and game situations. The coaches were very impressed by the ability of the group to pick up new ideas and concepts quickly and successfully execute them under pressure. The coaches have many tough decisions to make when considering selection camp invitations. Camp runs tomorrow from 9am to 3pm; the first round of games begin at 11am.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:14 pm

Congratulations to the 18 athletes who were selected to represent BC this spring and summer on the U17 Provincial Team. Best of luck to Coach Jordan and the team and thanks to all of the players who tried out.
BC U17 Team 2012
Montell Lingren
Devin Brar
Peter Spanghel
Matt Hampton
Jerod Dorby
L. Jordan Charles
Jamie Madewan
Alex Hart
Jesse Mushiana
Chase Ruttenberg
Luka Petkovic
Liam Horne
Tyus Allen
Elijah Hillis-Gold
JJ Pankratz
Joel Lutz
Trevor Casey
Aaron Madaisky
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PostSubject: U16 SuperCamp    Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:28 pm

After three long and hard fought days the coaches completed their evaluations and announced the selections for the U16 Selection Camp which will take place next weekend at the LEC and Trinity Western University. The effort, competitiveness, and attitude of the players were all outstanding over the three days. Each individual at camp was discussed in depth multiple times over the weekend with every coach providing input on every player. Congratulations to the players below for their selections and best of luck to all camp participants going forward.

Adam Karmali
Tarik Scott
Jalen Jana
Jaycee Pineda
Gurj Pooni
Antonio Jhuty
Ashton Kendall
Jas Gill
Martin Bogajev
Ismail Abdulahi
Alex Jordache
Luke Tompkins
Terence Turenne
Djordje Orbradovic
Nick Tancon
Grant Galbraith
Jonathon Kongbo
Dean Johnston
Bowen Bakken
Paul Baadsvik
Luke Collombin
Justin Bennett
Nathan Haglund
Eric Weatherby
Austin Penrose
Joe Davis

**Brayden Belleville
**Denver Sparks-Guest
**Kosia Cauw



**Participated in the U17 SuperCamp and Selection Camps and are deferred to next weeks U16 camp.

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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:05 pm

Wow these have to be some of the worst provincial teams in BC history. They seem to get worst and worst every year.....
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:55 pm

Drive U16s have most of the province's top players playing for them this summer.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:37 pm

McKay wrote:
After three long and hard fought days the coaches completed their evaluations and announced the selections for the U16 Selection Camp which will take place next weekend at the LEC and Trinity Western University. The effort, competitiveness, and attitude of the players were all outstanding over the three days. Each individual at camp was discussed in depth multiple times over the weekend with every coach providing input on every player. Congratulations to the players below for their selections and best of luck to all camp participants going forward.

Adam Karmali
Tarik Scott
Jalen Jana
Jaycee Pineda
Gurj Pooni
Antonio Jhuty
Ashton Kendall
Jas Gill
Martin Bogajev
Ismail Abdulahi
Alex Jordache
Luke Tompkins
Terence Turenne
Djordje Orbradovic
Nick Tancon
Grant Galbraith
Jonathon Kongbo
Dean Johnston
Bowen Bakken
Paul Baadsvik
Luke Collombin
Justin Bennett
Nathan Haglund
Eric Weatherby
Austin Penrose
Joe Davis

**Brayden Belleville
**Denver Sparks-Guest
**Kosia Cauw



**Participated in the U17 SuperCamp and Selection Camps and are deferred to next weeks U16 camp.


thanks for the update. Would you be able to provide each position for these players?
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:00 pm

The only 1 that i would like to see added or considered to the BC Team would've been Zahariejivic from Kits.

As for the 16's Cohee, Etienne and Minhas would probably make the BC team had they gone that route or the options of going that route but those selected to the Selection Camp are all very good players, i think the talent pool at the u16 level is a little bit deeper than the 17s
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:53 pm

Machoops wrote:
The only 1 that i would like to see added or considered to the BC Team would've been Zahariejivic from Kits.

Zahariejivic is playing for the DRIVE U17 Elite Team this spring/summer.


hooper35 wrote:
Wow these have to be some of the worst provincial teams in BC history. They seem to get worst and worst every year.....

I think the BC U17 team has some of the best Gr.11(going to Gr.12) talent in the province.

Some background below for all the players selected, for those who aren't familiar with them.


Trevor Casey - 6'4" SF/PF - Terry Fox
2012 AAA Provincial 1st-Team All-Star, one of the keys to Terry Fox's 2012 AAA Provincial Championship, former BC U15 (2010) Blue Team Member

Tyus Allen - 5'11" PG - White Rock Christian
BC Centre for Performance attendee, helped lead WRCA to 3rd Place finish at 2012 AAA Provincials

Joel Lutz - 6'7" C - Brookswood
BC Centre for Performance attendee, former BC U15 (2010) Blue Team Member

Peter Spanghel - 6'3" SF/PF - White Rock Christian
BC U16 (2011) Team Member, BC Centre for Performance attendee

Jamie Madewan - 6'4" SG/SF - RC Palmer
BC U16 (2011) Team Member, BC Centre for Performance attendee

L. Jordan Charles - 6'3" SG/SF - Brentwood College
BC U16 (2011) Team Member, 2012 AA Provincial 1st-Team All-Star

Aaron Madaisky - 6'6" C - Holy Cross
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Alex Hart - 6'10" C - Immaculata
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Elijah Hillis-Gold - 5'11" PG - S. Kamloops
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Montell Lingren - 6'0" PG/SG - Duchess Park
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Matt Hampton - 6'3" SG/SF - Oak Bay
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Chase Ruttenberg - 6'5" SF/PF - Sentinel
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Devin Brar - 6'5" SF - Abbotsford Collegiate
BC U16 (2011) Team Member

Jesse Mushiana - 6'5" SG/SF - Winston Churchill
former BC U15 (2010) Blue Team Member

Liam Horne - 5'11" PG - Oak Bay
former BC U15 (2010) Red Team Member

Luka Petkovic - 6'2" PG/SG - Handsworth
BC Centre for Performance attendee

JJ Pankratz - 6'3" SF/PF - Yale
Avg. 20 PPG, 11 RPG in 2012 AAA Provincials (tied for 11th in both Categories)

Jerod Dorby - 6'6" PF - Cowichan
Helped lead Thunderbirds to 4th in 2012 AAA Island Regionals


All hard-working kids and greatly deserving of representing BC against some of the top talents in North America this Spring/Summer.

Congrats to all the boys.
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PostSubject: Re: Basketball BC U16 and U17 try outs   Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:37 pm

hooper35 wrote:
Wow these have to be some of the worst provincial teams in BC history. They seem to get worst and worst every year.....

the U17 Basketball BC team is probably better than the Drive U17 elite team. imo Jamie Madewan and Montell Lindgren are probably the 2 best players U17 in BC. Madewan was invited to the National Team camp once again this year.

for U16, drive has the better team because of Minhas, Cohee, and Etienne
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