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PostSubject: 2016 Girls Top 10   Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:47 pm

Probably time again to get to get a top 10 underway. This will be the pre-school- pre-preseason top for now. No idea about transfers, I'm sure there will be more coaching changes.t As always this is just opinion based. There are no metrics, the research department is unreliable, and mostly I think bias and occasional bulletin board material is more fun.

Pre-school-pre-preseason girls top 10.

1) BMHS - You are still the champs (Again). Have to beat the champs before they move. At some point someone will spend time practicing to beat what they do defensively. As always they will reload with talent. Loss of Bulman is a hole to fill but with multiple players on the courts on summer with clubs, sweat academy and BNB they have talent to continue to compete.

2) Sussex - Another year older for talented group of Sussex players. Some big loses to graduation but talent still there and more waiting in the wings. Biggest issues will be who/how to defend interior presence. Fortunately interior play will be few and far between in AAA girls league.
So much talent now have taken the next step with Harbour Station appearance can they maintain focus all year with that final step being the only logical conclusion. As deep and balanced with talent as an NB team we've seen in recent years. Can they win the grind games too?

After this the crystal ball gets real murky:

3) KV - Were supposed to be too young last year. DIdn't matter. Loss of Jensen as leader and motor will be key but all young talent is back. Motivated seniors, long, talented. Will cause rebounding and matchup problems for everyone they play. KV area kids routinely tagged with "soft" label, but this group has length and skill to win grind em up games and skill games if thats how teams want to go. This is without knowledge of transfers as RHS seems to bleed talent to them yearly.

4) Riverview - Interesting year for Royals. Will be very young for AAA varsity program. PUtting lots of stock in their 11th and 10th graders. Kids playing all summer some choosing to play together while others chose BNB. Young but gritty on defense and with shot makers. KNock last couple of years was lack of size and how they would get hoops. This group has some shot makers and enough length to defend size. East is going to be wild.

5) FHS - Some will say not high enough for the Kitty some will say too high. There is a log jam in the middle of this list that you could shake out anyway. Did they under perform to expectations last year. By both our standards and expectations of FHS probably. In a province of increasing depth and balance in NB they are the only school/teenagers carrying around weight of losses being defining and winning an expectation regardless. But enough pity for the Kitty. After two years absence from the top its time to show up. They will be young, but more balanced and less dependant on a particular group or style of play. For all everyone's claims about lack of talent they will start a lineup full of provincial team players with more on the bench. This is the first group the new coaching staff gets to call their own. We'll see where they shake out.

First cop out of the year coming up.

T-6 SJHS and MVHS

I know I'm that guy. But I have no idea how this is going to come out for these schools. SJHS not as deep but bringing back arguably their best talent. New coach but one would assume she would dance with what got them their. High pressure defense, volume shooting and pace. With older shooters, more fit interior players, and experience at the top. SJHS could continue to make a move. Particularly in a tough south where 3rd place is no longer be a death sentence at regionals.

But then you've got MVHS. As much fire power and guard play as anyone in the East. Their style of play causes fits and hey you have to play them in Miramichi at some point if you are BMHS and RHS. Again seeding could play a huge role for them as they need to win on the road too. They have greater depth as experience as talent gets older, stronger, wiser. Still need to be able to protect rim if they can't generate turnovers. Can this group get it to another level?

Cool WHS - Summer league teams, travel to the US to play competition. Incoming freshmen and JV players who could challenge for spots and still undefeated vs AA competition since their return. Woodstock reloads again. More gyms, more feeder programs and coaches in a program that is year in and out capable of creating players who want to be stars and supporting casts who go all out to be whatever they need to win. This is probably to low for a team capable of 3 peating and competing with top schools in the province but with so much going through graduated post players there will be some early season bumps so this seems like a good place to start.

9) LHHS - New coach, another season of club ball and bnb teams, will finish top 2 in the east by rollling balls out. How have they dropped this low? Physical play, and work ethic get you so far. New coaches and kids work in the offseason need to prove that they have a way to score. Last season was disappointment results wise, will change lead to growth or will it be another year of woulda, coulda shoulda.

10 +5 more) Cop out #2 ?????

Next 6 teams could all be there but who will be just too many unknowns.

JMH - Likely hosts of a AA sectional again this year. Loss of Corlett is big piece but Depres brings experience back from BNB and whole other cast is back.

Fundy - Southern conference champ hosts regionals this year so if they can repeat it could be a big year for them. Can they take a break from winning other sports titles to focus on getting it done on the court long enough.

CNHS - DOwn year last year but key contributors back and added depth from JV program and BNB teams. Could be right back in the mix

RHS - New coach basically return entire team minus Gulliver that finished season. Always have talent if it stays. Lots of question marks.

HVHS - Everyone's darling last year at playoff time because they didn't get rocked by the KItty. Coaches are back, provincial team representation for 2nd year in row. Who are they going to play, who can they beat?

SVHS - Key contributors back. Youth got better as year went on last year. Need to be able to defend people straight up and find more offense to get over the top but thats what development is for.

DARK HORSE:

What is happening at Trimble. Trying to rebuild for 2 years. Is this the year they can come back. MHS without much left, and ODY and MM have been nest to non existant. Someone needs to get the 4th seed in the East? Will they be there?
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Thu Aug 27, 2015 6:19 pm

I like most of Coach DJR picks with a few exceptions

Here's a view from NB east..

1. BMHS -- As long as the coaching stays the same (I haven't heard otherwise), this is where these girls will be come next February. Expect a roller coaster ride of big wins and questionable losses at first, but looks to stabilize in January. This program has proven in the past that rankings mean squat until sectionals or Harbour Station. Loss of 2015's grads won't be a factor for the upcoming season as most of their talent returns along with a great influx of new players from JV. Many of last years returning players were involved in the BNB Summer U programs keeping their game up. Team will be athletic, defensively stingy and have a deeper bench than last season.

2. Riverview -- Virtually the entire Varsity and JV team has benefitted by playing and practicing together in the off season. Young but strong cast of returnees that will have a strong supporting cast. Defensively gritty team with a strong and deep backcourt. Extremely athletic crew that will be superfast with lots of legs from start to finish. Team will rely on fast break and transition game. Loss of LeBlanc and Newman's presence on the boards and in the paint may be the biggest (or only) hurdle for this squad. Consistency has been an issue for the Royals in the past, and those heebee jeebee's will need to be shaken off out of the gate.

3. Sussex -- Top choice for the west's top spot. The Dairytown team like the above teams had tons of kids playing in the off season. Like all teams, they lose talent to graduation, but they retain a strong core and will have plenty of talent available to fill any gaps left. Sussex also boasts a truly strong and loyal fan base which makes them a hard team to beat in their own gym.

4. Kennebecasis -- These girls proved last year that despite inexperience that they could challenge any team in the province. They'll be a major force in the west and if they get momentum they could steamroll their way right to Harbour Station. The Crusaders biggest hurdle is that they are pretty much the least physical playing AAA team in the province. It's a long season to get banged around.

5. Fredericton -- Always fields good teams. #1 pretty much all last season, but ran out of ummf at sectionals. They lose more then any other team in the province when it boils down to experience. They do have some bright spots and as long as the funk was shaken off from a questionable JV program last year they should still be a solid 3rd in the West.

6. Miramichi -- Probably should be ranked a lot higher than this. They bring back a solid team and even though they have been small in the past they've managed to find ways to create chaos. Good luck to any team trying to pull off a solid win in their gym. Irritating defence that causes tons of turnovers. Size will again be a major hurdle for them to overcome.

7. Saint John -- Had some nice wins early in the season but seemed to fizzle out in the end. Continues to develop, returns a solid group of girls. If team continues to score as last season and plays a better two way game they could surprise.

8. Woodstock -- Always a good program in place and continues to push out quality players to the university ranks. will more than likely be at Harbour Station again next February.

9. Leo Hayes -- Thought they'd be the biggest challenger in the west last season, not sure what happened. New coach, new direction this year. Plenty of off season play and supportive program. I ranked them high last season, maybe by putting them here they'll prove me wrong and end up near the top.

10. JMH -- Looses Corlett, but that's all I think.... Will be close but should finish a head of Fundy to play at Harbour Station.

Rest of the pack: Harbour View, Fundy, Rothesay, Carleton North, Harrison Trimble (If they put a Varsity team in)
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PostSubject: Top 10 PreSeason   Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:11 pm

Well CoachDJR and Rivhoops, disappointed in the cop outs of picking the same old number 1. Unless the coaches of NB girls basketball have been in a catatonic for the last two years , they are going to figure out how to crack an aggressive 1-3-1 zone earlier sooner than later in the season. In fact, I think you are going to see some other teams deploy that defensive strategy occasionally and thus teams will get to practice against it more often.

Their is a dearth of paint talent in the girls game this year. (Mentally I go through the top 10 teams and can think of about 4 teams that might have this area covered) Teams are going to live and die on the outside shot and getting into transition offensive on defensively forced turnovers. I think this will bring even more parity to the games this year and we will see significant movement week over week from about 1 through 7 on this list.


So without further adieu, the non-cop out, discussion inducing top 10 will be rolled out.


1. The Crusaders of KV Valley
Yes, just because you won it last year you don't get number 1. This team has one of the best coaches in the province who led a young team all the way to the semi-finals last year. They have a Canadian National Championship first all star that has length, great mid range shot. They have the number #1 offensive threat from the U16 team provincial team this summer who had at least one 30+ point game last year (probably best pure shooter in NB right now) and they have a tough inside defender/rebounder. Little short on depth but they survived on a short bench last year. If any of their key three go down, they could plummet down 3 or 4 spots.

2. McNaughton High School
Wow are they ever going to miss Bulman!! She was their toughness. OK. Lets start with the upside. A bunch of athletic girls who can run and most are above average shooters by NB standard. Great depth. It is like they have a clone factory. If they can turn you over on the 1-3-1 zone and get into transition they can score layups. Watching these girls at the U17 level this summer they have a toughness deficit on this team. I am not sure how the heck they are going to stop a tough inside rebounder. Oh yeah, see my theory on 1-3-1 zone in the preamble.

3. Sonics of Sussex High School
Tough defender who give it their all every night. Strong in the transition game and definitely getting better at the shooting game. Interesting to see how they rally after the loss at Harbour Station. They will miss two tough gritty seniors.

4. Fredericton High
They still have some toughness, grit and competitive spirit on this team. They will fight and scrap defensively on any given night. They are definitely going to struggle to score at times this year and if they can battle in 50-45 type ball games they can upset a few people.

5. Riverview Royals
Lots of young talent that can run and shoot. But, can they battle on the boards and defend with attitude? Newman was their offensive engine last year, remains to be seen if they can find paint offensive output to replace her. Also will miss Leblanc's defensive toughness.

6. Saint John High School
They need to replace an outside shooter they lose and have lots of young guns in the wings with two additional girls rolling in from the BNB provincial team ranks to add quality of the dore team. First 7 or so will be able to scrap with anyone. Like KV, an injury to one of their key players sends them tumbling.

7. Miramichi Valley
If the shot is dropping move them up to number 4, otherwise they are a solid 7. Fast paced team with no size!! Lindsay Gallant played amazingly tough and gritty for them inside last year and was the main reason they were able to keep in the games on the boards. They needs to find Lindsay 2.0 this year to fight with the top teams.

8. Harbourview High School
They lose one key senior. I think this team has something to prove this year with the core of the girls in grade 12. I think they feel they have been passed over and disrespected in the girls high school ranks for several years.

9. Leo Hayes
Have lots of young talent rolling in but it will take a while to gear up. Start them at this spot and they may move up as their youth movement matures this year.

10. Woodstock
The pride of Carleton County is always tough. Can they find an inside rebounder this year, I think that will be the key. Carr poured in many 15-20 points games last year with paint points. Can they find that this year?






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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:53 am

CoachDJR wrote:
Probably time again to get to get a top 10 underway. This will be the pre-school- pre-preseason top for now. No idea about transfers, I'm sure there will be more coaching changes.t As always this is just opinion based. There are no metrics, the research department is unreliable, and mostly I think bias and occasional bulletin board material is more fun.

Pre-school-pre-preseason girls top 10.

1) BMHS - You are still the champs (Again). Have to beat the champs before they move. At some point someone will spend time practicing to beat what they do defensively. As always they will reload with talent. Loss of Bulman is a hole to fill but with multiple players on the courts on summer with clubs, sweat academy and BNB they have talent to continue to compete.

2) Sussex - Another year older for talented group of Sussex players. Some big loses to graduation but talent still there and more waiting in the wings. Biggest issues will be who/how to defend interior presence. Fortunately interior play will be few and far between in AAA girls league.
So much talent now have taken the next step with Harbour Station appearance can they maintain focus all year with that final step being the only logical conclusion. As deep and balanced with talent as an NB team we've seen in recent years. Can they win the grind games too?

After this the crystal ball gets real murky:

3) KV - Were supposed to be too young last year. DIdn't matter. Loss of Jensen as leader and motor will be key but all young talent is back. Motivated seniors, long, talented. Will cause rebounding and matchup problems for everyone they play. KV area kids routinely tagged with "soft" label, but this group has length and skill to win grind em up games and skill games if thats how teams want to go. This is without knowledge of transfers as RHS seems to bleed talent to them yearly.

4) Riverview - Interesting year for Royals. Will be very young for AAA varsity program. PUtting lots of stock in their 11th and 10th graders. Kids playing all summer some choosing to play together while others chose BNB. Young but gritty on defense and with shot makers. KNock last couple of years was lack of size and how they would get hoops. This group has some shot makers and enough length to defend size. East is going to be wild.

5) FHS - Some will say not high enough for the Kitty some will say too high. There is a log jam in the middle of this list that you could shake out anyway. Did they under perform to expectations last year. By both our standards and expectations of FHS probably. In a province of increasing depth and balance in NB they are the only school/teenagers carrying around weight of losses being defining and winning an expectation regardless. But enough pity for the Kitty. After two years absence from the top its time to show up. They will be young, but more balanced and less dependant on a particular group or style of play. For all everyone's claims about lack of talent they will start a lineup full of provincial team players with more on the bench. This is the first group the new coaching staff gets to call their own. We'll see where they shake out.

First cop out of the year coming up.

T-6 SJHS and MVHS

I know I'm that guy. But I have no idea how this is going to come out for these schools. SJHS not as deep but bringing back arguably their best talent. New coach but one would assume she would dance with what got them their. High pressure defense, volume shooting and pace. With older shooters, more fit interior players, and experience at the top. SJHS could continue to make a move. Particularly in a tough south where 3rd place is no longer be a death sentence at regionals.

But then you've got MVHS. As much fire power and guard play as anyone in the East. Their style of play causes fits and hey you have to play them in Miramichi at some point if you are BMHS and RHS. Again seeding could play a huge role for them as they need to win on the road too. They have greater depth as experience as talent gets older, stronger, wiser. Still need to be able to protect rim if they can't generate turnovers. Can this group get it to another level?

Cool WHS - Summer league teams, travel to the US to play competition. Incoming freshmen and JV players who could challenge for spots and still undefeated vs AA competition since their return. Woodstock reloads again. More gyms, more feeder programs and coaches in a program that is year in and out capable of creating players who want to be stars and supporting casts who go all out to be whatever they need to win. This is probably to low for a team capable of 3 peating and competing with top schools in the province but with so much going through graduated post players there will be some early season bumps so this seems like a good place to start.

9) LHHS - New coach, another season of club ball and bnb teams, will finish top 2 in the east by rollling balls out. How have they dropped this low? Physical play, and work ethic get you so far. New coaches and kids work in the offseason need to prove that they have a way to score. Last season was disappointment results wise, will change lead to growth or will it be another year of woulda, coulda shoulda.

10 +5 more) Cop out #2 ?????

Next 6 teams could all be there but who will be just too many unknowns.

JMH - Likely hosts of a AA sectional again this year. Loss of Corlett is big piece but Depres brings experience back from BNB and whole other cast is back.

Fundy - Southern conference champ hosts regionals this year so if they can repeat it could be a big year for them. Can they take a break from winning other sports titles to focus on getting it done on the court long enough.

CNHS - DOwn year last year but key contributors back and added depth from JV program and BNB teams. Could be right back in the mix

RHS - New coach basically return entire team minus Gulliver that finished season. Always have talent if it stays. Lots of question marks.

HVHS - Everyone's darling last year at playoff time because they didn't get rocked by the KItty. Coaches are back, provincial team representation for 2nd year in row. Who are they going to play, who can they beat?

SVHS - Key contributors back. Youth got better as year went on last year. Need to be able to defend people straight up and find more offense to get over the top but thats what development is for.

DARK HORSE:

What is happening at Trimble. Trying to rebuild for 2 years. Is this the year they can come back. MHS without much left, and ODY and MM have been nest to non existant. Someone needs to get the 4th seed in the East? Will they be there?

How are you putting FHS 5th? They've lost 4/5 starters.. so the question is, who do you think they have left that are good enough to keep them at 5th and carry the team? Also, Bernice lost quite a few key players. yes they still have players that played BNB this summer but are they going to be able to win it all with just the remaining players?
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:42 pm

donkeybear wrote:



How are you putting FHS 5th? They've lost 4/5 starters.. so the question is, who do you think they have left that are good enough to keep them at 5th and carry the team? Also, Bernice lost quite a few key players. yes they still have players that played BNB this summer but are they going to be able to win it all with just the remaining players?

Good questions.

Who should I put in front of them. With the exception of WHS: has anyone on the list beaten them in the last while? Does anyone have any kids on their varsity roster that have won a varsity game against the KItty? I don't think so. WHich means other than WHS no program on the list has the street cred for me to move them down. Beat em then we'll talk.

Could I move WHS up the list, probably, but they've taken a big hit and for the first time in a long time the replacement players are only good not great. They are also in their last few athletes who played seasons of AAA for part of their high school careers. So while the Woodstock machine keeps rolling I'm taking a wait and see approach on the passing of the torch.

Who does FHS have: the starting PG from the U17 girls team for 2 years, forwards from the u17 and u16 teams. Supporting players from u15 and u15 dev teams as well as incoming kids and returning kids who have been part of v-reds, y, and FHS programs in Fredericton. . Half a roster of provincial team players is a lot more than most other teams on the list are boasting. Certainly no one I put beneath them.

BMHS as 1? Lets be fair they've got a lot coming back who've won before and played at high levels all summer. They are the 2 time defending champs who else would you put at the top of a preseason poll? This is also about me not betting against the universe. Fool me once same on you, fool me twice shame on me. Everytime I bet against BMHS or write them off I get provcen wrong. EIther they do everything right and grind their way back into contention or tiles OR the universe conspires to get them: matchups, or have massive cancellations in January so teams aren't making tactical growth or adjustments, or injuries, or coaches unwilling to game plan specifically for the 1-3-1, etc etc. Right now the basketball universe keeps breaking BMHS and their kids are earning the right to be in position to take advantage of those breaks. I'm no longer writing off BMHS until the fat lady has sung, is off stage and in the limo home.

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PostSubject: Six More Sleeps   Wed Nov 04, 2015 7:47 am

Six more sleeps to tip of day. Any interesting games early in the schedule?

Saint John High visits Leo Hayes on Nov. 14 that should give some clarity to the bottom part of the seedings.

Sussex, Saint John High , Miramichi Valley and James M Hill will end up tangling in some sort of combination in the Miramichi tournament the following weekend.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:59 am

2nd Weekend is the Miramichi Hoop Classic and Lions Den. So lots of big matchups that weekend.

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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:55 pm

Riverview High will take on KVHS Saturday Nov14th at home
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PostSubject: Early Prognostication Fact Check   Mon Nov 09, 2015 3:15 pm

OK so we all think SJHS vs Leo Hayes is a 6 or 7 versus a 9 team. So if Leo Hayes upsets we all did not know what we are talking about. No bragging rights on the line here.

The other Nov. 14th game will tell the tale of prophetic preseason prognostication prowess (the old PPPP).

As I see it, KV at Riverview breaks down as the following:

Rivhoops thinks its is 4 visiting 2.
Coach DJR thinks it is a 3 versus a 4
Souwest has it as the 1 seed visiting the 5 seed.

So taking home gym into account. I think Riverview has to win by a minimum of 6 for the rivhoops ranking to hold true.
I think plus +/- 5 points and Coach DJR is probably in the ball park. (although we need a few more games to see if the 3/4 slot is the right slot...could be higher or lower)
If KV comes out 6 points or more being the visitor,there is probably 3-4 spot spread in the rankings between these teams and Souwest wins the preseason prognostication crown.

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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:16 am

Early Results:
KV Sneaks past the Kitty by 6 in Freddy.
Fundy rolls Harbourview by 15 in their home gym.
Rothesay romps past St Stephen by 30ish.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Fri Nov 13, 2015 9:47 pm

Other results:

Harvey Beats St. Stephen in Harvey by a bucket
Woodstock by double digits over LHHS
McNaugthon steam rolls Moncton High
CNHS takes down Rothesay by double digits and hangs on to win a gritty game vs St. Stephen.
Harbour View and Fundy both get W's vs Grand Manan
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Sat Nov 14, 2015 12:18 pm

Riverview defeats KVHS at home 64-62
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:01 pm

Fundy beats Rothesay by 20 - Neutral Site
CNHS over HVHS by 11 - Neutral Site
CNHS over Fundy by 3 - Neutral Site
LHHS over MVHS by14 - LHHS Home
LHHS over SJHS by 23 - LHHS Home
Sussex over BMHS by 9 - Sussex Home

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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Sun Nov 15, 2015 6:48 pm

Here is the week 1 Varsity Girls Power rankings - otherwise known as the broad generalization argument based on too little evidence top 10 . AKA the big overreaction standings.

1 Sussex - All of our Sussex followers and fans will be happy to know they are back in the good books with a great home win to open season vs the defending champs.

2 McNaughton - If you are the defending champ and your only loss is to the last years runner up. That loss was in their gym by single digits you get to sit at this spot at the table.

3. Riverview - I'm not sure a 2 pt home win means a whole lot in the Grand Scheme of things but its all the evidence there is to go on, so here you go. If you are better than 1 of the 2 ahead of you I'm sure you can prove it as we move ahead.

4. KV - Interesting weekend for the Crusaders. 2 close games and I'm not sure if that hurts or helps our opinion of them. Beat the Kitty by single digits at home, heard they were even down in the 4th. Just got edged by Riverview in RHS. Clearly a contender rather than a pretender but how to get to the next level?

5. FHS - Despite the off season criticism of placing the Kitty so high, as it appears they are back in the hunt. New look Kitty over the last couple of years. Deep, fast and youthful  enthusiasm. Maybe the pressure can finally come off and the FHS kids can just go play.

6. Woodstock - Arguably toughest place to play a big game in the province. Protected their home court and got an easier win than expected over LHHS. Other games mean they are at the top of the list below.

7. LHHS - Got dumped by Woody but came back with solid wins over MVHS and SJHS. Better start up than we gave them credit for, welcome back to the party Lionesses.

8. MVHS - Tough losses to start the year. Wondering how much being the AAA soccer champs from a smaller AAA school has to do with it. We'll see where they are at in a few weeks. This is not the start they were looking for.

9. SJHS - What was that? Ugly looking score to open season where I was expecting them to make a big jump. Definitely doesn't sound like the well oiled machine that was ready to take the next step at the end of last year. Its November though so no need for overreaction.

10. JMH - SOmone needs to be here. There were here last year. Haven't done anything to lose the spot. In fact I'm not sure if they played anyone yet at all. We'll know more about them after the Miramichi Classic weekend.

Looking in: CNHS, Fundy, SVHS
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:28 am

Too kind to SJHS. They stunk. Ill prepared, no defense , and no fitness . They need to play their way back into the top 10.

Move JMH up 1 and put CNHS in at 10th spot.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Nov 16, 2015 11:05 am

I'm going to wait until after this weekend to make my adjustments. That should give a better view of the teams.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:36 am

rivhoops wrote:
I'm going to wait until after this weekend to make my adjustments. That should give a better view of the teams.

I will wait and do the same Rivhoops! exciting time of year!
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:43 pm

Sunday night. Wild weekend of games in Miramichi and Fredericton. May have muddied the waters more than anything thanks to Nov inconsistency and teams missing or losing key pieces along the way. The 2nd installment of the unofficial power rankings.

1) Sussex - Finish with a win over McNaughton who had their ups and downs all weekend. Top 5 in the power pool and in AAA look like an any given night sort of situations. Sussex appears to have the firepower right now but matchups are a big deal between these top teams. Who can/can't turnover someone, who can/can't get paint touches 5 on 5.

2) McNaughton - I'm not so confident about this ranking right now but as I've stated previously dibelief in the Highlanders has been my kryptonite in the past with these rankings. They got the final of Lions Den so here you go.

3) KV - Another team in the mix for being the best every night. Don't appear to have the raw fire power of some of the other top teams but have length and composure and kids to make plays. We'll keep them locked in here.

4) FHS - This may again draw some ire but they made the cross overs. Beat Brenice along the way and gave Sussex absolutely all they could handle. Also like most teams this early have kids banged up or out sick playing with 8-9 most of the weekend. For all those who questioned who or how Kitty would compete this year you have your answer.

5) Riverview - Probably too low but you didn't get to cross overs. I know you've got wins over KV and FHS but this top 5 is going to be a crap shoot all year and theyall made the top 4 of a tourney you didn't and you were there. Keep grinding and give me something else.

6) LHHS - Tough call here. They are not quite up in the upper category and have split home wins with (spoiler) WHS at 7. Have the more recent win vs WHS and depth allowed them to stay a little closer to some top teaps than Woodstock.

7) Woodstock - Could have been 6 but we'll put you here. Lots of great competition early should get them the nod as best AA team right now and as per usual would be a top 8 team in AAA as they were yearly the years they were there. A long year I can't see them moving much lower but I'm not sure if they can get into the top 5 this year.

Cool MVHS - The rest of this list is almost as dicey as the top 5 as you've got probably 6 teams that are a game in game out situation with each other. No one is health and its early. MVHS takes care of buisness on their home court. Doesn't look great along the way but got better every time out. Struggle to put up massive numbers of points. Got enough turnovers and made enough shots (on their own rims) to get it done. But two of their wins are by 6 and 14 against teams I'm not putting in the top 10 this week.

9) SJHS - Started to look like world beaters again vs SVHS. Then almost imploded and all but blew a big lead to a depleted Fundy team. Then didn't get the offense going again in a gritty final vs MVHS. Talent and athleticism to burn but no clear sense of identity or rotations yet. Still entrenched in the top 10.

10) CNHS - Maybe a bit of a surprise pick here but have 3 provincial team players on the perimeter and a win over Fundy team who could arguably be here after finishing ahead of JMH in Miramichi tournament and almost taking down SJHS short handed. CNHS is 10 basically interchangeable pieces with fearless shot takers and gritty defense who will be a tough out for anyone this year.

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Fundy, Harbour View, JMH, SVHS, Trimble
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:10 pm

A view from the East

1) Sussex (Up 2 Spots)  - To date, they've won the Lions Den, defeated BMHS twice and had wins over Leo, Woodstock and Fundy. They're here for now but it's early in the season and KVHS is right on their heals and the only team thus far to hand them a defeat.  

2) KVHS (Up 2 Spots) - They've beaten Sussex, Fredericton, Woodstock and Leo Hayes. A close loss to Riverview and loss BMHS are only blemish on their record to date, could the East teams be your Achilles heel this season? No real superstar this year on the squad just a well balanced team with great coaching. Should be here or #1 all season.

3) BMHS (Down 2 Spots)- Why a 2 spot drop? Well they're 3(wins) and 4(losses) so far with wins over Riverview, KV and North Nova. It's the 30 point loss to Sussex at the Lion's Den final and another earlier loss to Fredericton that knock them out of the top spot and under KVHS. Highlander fans dont worry, this team will end up being the #1 or #2 in the East easily and more than likely have the best chance to get to the big dance out of the eastern conference teams.

4) Riverview (Down 2 Spots) - Missed chance for Lion's Den playoff spot. Lose to N. Nova and BMHS are balanced out with wins over Freddy and KVHS keep them from falling out of the top 5. Will inconsistency be a factor again this season?

5) Fredericton (Even) - Disappointing results at Lion's Den with Losses to Riverview, and Sussex . Defeat BMHS is a positive point but other earlier win vs. MVHS won't factor in moving them up in this ranking.

6) Leo Hayes (up 3 spots) - Tough draw at their home tourney led to a disappointing finish. Things are looking up for the Lions though with solid wins early in the season against SJHS, MVHS and a split with Woodstock. Look for this team to keep climbing the ladder.  

7) MVHS (Down 1 spot) - Won their home tourney going 4-0. But to move up, they have to beat teams ahead of them on the list. The loss Leo earlier on is what drops them a spot. Wins vs. teams lower or not on this list don't move them up either. This team will always cause havok in the eastern conference especially for teams looking to claim the top seed.

8)Woodstock (Even) - Split games with Leo Hayes, with no other notable wins. Still expect them be the biggest competition in AA.

9) Saint John (Down 2 spots) - Slow start compared to last season. Finished 2nd at MVHS tourney. Loses to both Leo Hayes and MVHS only wins came at the hands of teams not making the list.

10) Carleton North (New to List) - With wins over Harbour View and Fundy earn them the toughest spot to keep on this list.

Next 5 -- SVHS, Fundy, Harbour View, John Caldwell and JMH


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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:57 pm

Great weekend of hoops at Lions Den,the talent pool is exceptional, I won't attempt to rank this years contenders and pretenders, too early. I was very impressed with Sussex, Kv, FHS. Disappointed with Bernice but coaches dream in terms of learning opp. Leo looks like after lot of years juggling coaches have found good one. Riverview??
The big take away for me was how well the grade nines and tens competed, the game is in good hands for next 2-3 years, congrats to players, coaches and parents.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:13 am

Difficult weekend to make any real judgements most top teams were away playing out of province competition and infrequently against each other. Bottom half should stay the same though CNHS shows they are right there in two games with Woodstock. Sussex did handle BMHS again in another tight contest between top 5 squads. Without any conclusive evidence to shake up the list. I am going to hold my rankings the same for this week as last though I do need another team to be the last team in the next 5 as Trimble has gotten dumped by some scores that indicate they probably don' t belong on this list yet.

No movement so :

1) Sussex
2) McNaugton
3) KVHS
4) Fredericton
5) Riverview
6) LHHS
7) MVHS
Cool Woodstock
9) SJHS
10) CNHS

Next 5: Fundy, Harbour View, James M Hill, Southern Victoria, Rothesay
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:36 pm

Another week and time to update the top 10. Not a lot of movement but a couple of significant head to head games that seem to be clearing the playing the field a little.

1. Sussex - Still taking care of buisness vs NB schools. Got their league win in solid fashion vs KVHS even with Sussex short handed.

2. KVHS - Some may question how losing moves you up, but right now seem like the most consistent team after Sussex in this top group.

3. RHS - Had them at 5 couldn't make the jump to 2 because I need to see it consistently at both ends of the floor. Find ways to defend tough but if every game is a rock fight it makes for a long year. COnsistent offense could get them and keep them near the top of the list. Big win over BMHS in Bronze game of Hoops Classic.

4. FHS - Nothing big in the news lately vs top competition. Handled LHHS easily and solidify a place in the tpo 4 for now.

5. BMHS - Speaking of inconsistency results seem to give scores that don't lead to any common threads. Sometimes its track meets, sometimes its grind em outs. Either they are getting style of play dictated to them or they are just struggling to find and maintain identity. I wouldn't say the champ is on the ropes yet, because they are still playing and competing with top flight teams. Don't underestimate them though its still a while until February.

6. LHHS - Definitely locked in here for a while. Clearly the strongest of the group below and can't seem to find a way to beat teams above.

7. MVHS - ? Wondering if this is too high but don't have enough recent data vs anyone else to say one way or the other. Tournament win over SJHS is not looking as great now as SJHS struggles through some hiccups early. Need to play and beat some teams to hold onto this spot.

8. WHS - You could make an argument for me to make them 7 but we'll wait until they are playing some of these teams again to make an estimation.

9. CNHS - Moving them up to 9 simply by virtue of how they take care of buisness and being right there with Woodstock.

10. SJHS - Been a rough couple of weeks. Inconsistency still problematic, bad half vs HVHS gives them league loss, struggled to put away a depleted Fundy team. With only top 3 now advancing to regionals SJHS needs to right the ship in a hurry.

Next 5: HVHS, SVHS, JMH, Fundy, Rothesay
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Dec 14, 2015 7:58 am

Well that was an illuminating weekend.

1. Sussex - Solid performance out of province in NS. Still top of the heap.

2. Riverview - Great weekend winning Rick Cotter. Will jump them up. Again.

3. LHHS - Maybe too big of a bump but a big win at FHS and then appearance in the tourney final gets you the x-mas gift of 3rd.

4. FHS - Took care of buisness most of the weekend. Drop a game to LHHS with less scoring then most NCAA mens football games and looked a little shaky at times vs WHS. Big win over KV solidifies spot here but need to keep getting better.

5. BMHS - Didn't see or hear from you so dropping you out of the top 5 for not playing just wouldn't be right.

6. KVHS - This is quite a tumble for one bad weekend. A whole lot of hanging around with the best for a couple of weeks now but need to be able to beat people consistently. The entire top 10 is now getting closer and closer.

7. MVHS - Probably too high but haven't done anything to drop.

8. SJHS - Great weekend to be a Greyhound. PLaying top tier teams tough and a blowout win over WHS. Is this the real SJHS, is it the team that has lost to HVHS twice, are they some where in the middle.

9. WHS - Looked great vs FHS then by Thursday were getting lit up by SJHS. Clearly top team in AA right now.

10 CNHS - Still right there in the couple games with CNHS and early season success has them solidly in the top 10.

Next 5: Fundy, HVHS, JMH, SVHS, St. Stephen.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:08 am

Rc classic not real classic this year several teams missing players, Kv, Rhs, col grey, not much you can do about it when you schedule but certainly showed on court lot of very sloppy play.
I wouldn't move anyone out ie bmhs. I'd like to see this tournament get stronger competition wise, I know their are some who must be invited, but some just can't compete. Hats off to Leo for final not certain who they are, time will tell Fhs very young, very small no room for error if they want to compete with top three.
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PostSubject: Re: 2016 Girls Top 10   Wed Dec 16, 2015 5:29 pm

Top ten looking from the east


1) Sussex (Even)- Still safe at the top spot. 3rd place showing in Halifax tournament and solid performance at the Gray losing only to NS powerhouse Horton. Won the Lion's Den title. Playing well in their league.

2) Riverview (Up 2 spots) - Went 4-0 at Cotter and win the final with a 7 player roster. Defeated BMHS for 3rd place finish at the Hoop Classic. A bit of a tough go at the Gray, but had some shinning moments there. Young roster with only 2 grade 12's. Working well on both ends of the floor by finding ways to score and playing some tough gritty defense. Big wins over NB teams BMHS, Fredericton, KVHS, Leo, Saint John and Miramichi Valley. Benefits of summer club ball paying dividends.

3) Fredericton (Up 2 ) - No tournament wins thus far and really nothing much to that makes this years team stand out. Winning a few games here and there but nothing really noteworthy. Finished 3rd at their home tourney and were quiet at the Gray. Not consistent, but with other teams tanking you benefit with a jump.

4) KVHS (Down 2) - Hmm not sure what's really going on here. The Crusaders started the season out strong but have started to fizzle a bit as of late. Placed 4th at the Cotter and like most other NB teams (other than Sussex) didn't really shine on the Island tourney a couple weeks ago. The girls have the fire power so look for them to right the ship soon.

5)Leo Hayes (Up 1 spot) - 2nd place finish at the Cotter and 2nd place finish at a NS tournament. They keep winning games, defeating Fredericton, MVHS, Woodstock, SJHS. A little to early I think to bump you any higher than this, but welcome to the top 5.

6) BMHS (Down 3 spots) - 4th place at the Hoop Classic with a loss to Riverview. Gray Classic was a bust and the Highlanders were out of sight last weekend. I know that this team will pull things together, they always seem to, but for now you stumble to 6.

7) MVHS (Even) - Not much from the Pullamoo that's note worthy other that giving Riverview a bit of a scare in a league game last week. The Big East teams still both have to pay you a visit for league action so things could change with that and how you do in the Dairytown.

Cool SJHS (UP 1 spot) - Defeated WHS at the Cotter for 5th place also defeated Gray in round robin. Losses to Riverview and KVHS weren't blowouts by any means but still need to beat teams ahead of you to move up anymore.

9) Woodstock (Down 1 spot) - Losses to Saint John and Leo Hayes along with others all ahead of you drops you a spot. Still the Queens of AA.

10) Fundy (NEW) - Kept things close with SJHS a couple times and also defeated Harbourview to climb on the list.


On the cusp, Carleton North, HVHS, SVHS, JMH, JMA

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