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PostSubject: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:33 pm

Who's qualified for the BC's?
All 64 teams decided.

http://sportvictoria.com/basketball/BCBerthing/2016/2016BCBerthing.htm

4A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 1.780... 2... 7 --- (Vancouver Island 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Oak Bay
2 Cowichan
- No challenge game
HS... 1.271... 1... 5 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 West Vancouver
LM... 3.305... 3... 13 --- (Lower Mainland 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Sir Winston Churchill
2 Kitsilano
3 St. George's

FV... 7.373... 8... 29 --- (Fraser Valley 8 OFFICIAL)
1 Tamanawis
2 Walnut Grove
3 W. J. Mouat
4 Holy Cross
5 North Surrey
6 Yale
7 Panorama Ridge
8 Terry Fox

OK... 1.271... 1... 5 --- (Okanagan 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelowna
NC... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 North Peace

KT... NA... 0... 1 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
MOUNT BAKER has forfeited their berth - after recalculation the extra berth went to FV.
NW... NA... 0... 0 --- (North West 0 OFFICIAL)
NO TEAM

3A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 2.882... 3... 14 --- (Vancouver Island 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Wellington
2 Nanaimo
3 Mark Isfeld

HS... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Bodwell
LM... 3.706... 4... 18 --- (Lower Mainland 4 OFFICIAL)
1 Steveston-London
2 St. Thomas More
3 Lord Byng
4 Matthew McNair

FV... 4.324... 4... 21 --- (Fraser Valley 4 OFFICIAL)
1 Southridge
2 Rick Hansen
3 Robert Bateman
4 Abbotsford

OK... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (Okanagan 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Valleyview
NC... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Duchess Park
NW... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Charles Hays
KT... NA... 1... 2 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 L. V. Rogers


2A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 3.018... 3... 13 --- (Vancouver Island 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Lambrick Park
2 St. Michaels
3 Shawnigan Lake

HS... 1.393... 2... 6 --- (Howe Sound 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Collingwood
2 St. Thomas Aquinas
LM... 2.321... 2... 10 --- (Lower Mainland 2 OFFICIAL)
1 St. Patrick's
2 Cambie

FV... 3.946... 4... 17 --- (Fraser Valley 4 OFFICIAL)
1 G. W. Graham
2 Pacific Academy
3 Abbotsford Christian
4 Delview

OK... 2.321... 2... 10 --- (Okanagan 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Southern Okanagan
2 Westsyde
- Challenge game by Westsyde on Tuesday March 1 @ Sa-Hali - Westsyde wins challenge game, 49-34, over Sa-Hali
NC... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelly Rd
NW... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Smithers
KT... AUTO... 1... 3 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Prince Charles

1A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 1.836... 2... 8 --- (Vancouver Island 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Duncan Christian
2 St. Andrew's
Challenge game Sunday 4:00 p.m. St. Andrew's vs Gold River @ Duncan Christian - St. Andrew's wins challenge game, 65-42, over Gold River
HS... AUTO... 1... 3 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Mulgrave
LM... 1.836... 2... 8 --- (Lower Mainland 2 OFFICIAL)
1 West Point Grey
2 Deer Lake

FV... 2.754... 3... 12 --- (Fraser Valley 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Credo Christian
2 Unity Christian
3 BC Christian

OK... 3.902... 4... 17 --- (Okanagan 4 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelowna Christian
2 St. Ann's
3 Osoyoos
4 Immaculata
Challenge game, by Similkameen, on Monday Feb 29 - Immaculata wins challenge game, 73-66, over Similkameen
NC... 2.525... 2... 11 --- (North Central 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Ron Pettigrew Christian
2 Lakes District

NW... AUTO... 1... 4 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Bulkley Valley Christian
KT... 1.148... 1... 5 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Sparwood


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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Feb 24, 2016 12:26 pm

4A FV gets an 8th berth as Kootenay's unable to attend the tournament.

Per BCHSBBA site:
At the 4A level the Kootenay’s zone is unable to attend the Provincial Tournament so their berth will now go to the Fraser Valley Zone. Using the berthing formula as per our rules and regulations the Fraser Valley Zone has the highest ratio and thus will receive an additional berth (Fraser Valley will now have 8 berths to the BC 4A Provincial Tournament)
4A Provincial Tournament Berths
Fraser Valley – 8
Lower Mainland – 3
Howe Sound – 1
Vancouver Island – 2
Okanagan – 1
North Central – 1
TOTAL - 16
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:42 am

Lyle Kits made it to the final not St Georges.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:59 am

CoachStone21 wrote:
Lyle Kits made it to the final not St Georges.


Yup - fixed it. Nice catch... need sleep.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sun Feb 28, 2016 1:07 pm

Given the FV gets an extra berth & now has 8 of the 16 teams, and in recent memory I haven't seen 2 teams from the same region play each other in the 1st round - that would mean the BC 4A seeding bracket is going to look VERY different. Some very good teams (FV) will be ranked much lower. Given that seeds 1-3 will be non FV teams, that means seeds 14,15,16 must be FV.

End result, might be the best Wednesday ever with many upsets (although not sure with all the parity this should be classified as upsets). Sometimes being a lower seed has it's benefits. #4 Tamanawis would play Cowichan at #13, #5 Grove would play the North #1 (likely BC #12). OaK Bay (at #3) would have a VERY tough game vs defending champion would Yale. Day 1 jitters, challenges adapting to playing at LEC, & Braich going for 40, it's like a home game for Yale. That's my 1st must-see game. Churchill at #2 would play Pan Ridge - another not-so-easy game, & KSS plays Fox. Not sure a #1 seed has ever played that strong a team on Day 1. I'm not saying KSS won't win (because they will), but Terry Fox is the best "lowest" seed in recent memory.

My BC Ranking for bracket purposes

1. KSS - OK 1
2. SWC - LM 1
3. Oak Bay - ISL 1
4. Tammy - FV 1  ** I gave Oak Bay higher seeding because they are 2-0 vs Tamanawis, & won 2 big tourneys
5. WGSS - FV 2
6. Kits - LM 2
7. Moaut - FV 3
8. Holy Cross - FV 4
9. WVSS - Howe Sound 1  **I gave WV the higher ranking over St Georges because they were #1 in their region
10. St Georges - LM 3
11. North Surrey - FV 5
12. North ??? - NC 1 **I gave North #1 the higher ranking over CSS because they were #1 in their region
13. Cow Sec - ISL 2
14. Yale - FV 6
15. Pan Ridge - FV 7
16. Terry Fox - FV8

I like the top 4 seeds in the Final 4, & KSS over SWC in Final.
Would love to hear what others think.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sun Feb 28, 2016 11:45 pm

This is the way I see it. It has to be based on rankings, head to head games and based on regional championships. The FV can no longer get by without playing another FV team in 1st. In order to make it fair for everyone. This is the only way it is fair. Really what's up for grabs is seeds 3 and 4. With Walnut losing FV, Oak Bay winning islands, but also beating Tamanawis twice and Walnut Grove once this is how it shakes out. Oak Bay has to be above WG and Tamanawis has to be above WG.

1. Kelowna

2. Sir Winston Churchill

3. Oak Bay

4. Tamanawis

5. Walnut Grove

6. Kitsilano

7. WJ Mouat

8. St. George’s

9. Holy Cross

10. North Surrey

11. Yale

12. Panorama Ridge

13. Terry Fox

14. West Vancouver

15. Cowichan

16. North Central
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:16 am

I agree RockNation that your rankings are actual rankings based on the all league/playoff & tournament play this year - but mine are also based on the fact that two teams from the same region (ie Fraser Valley) can not play each other in the 1st round. Given there are 8 FV teams, so at least one FV team has to play in every 1st round game. I started with the Top 7, which for me were no brainers - then seeded accordingly.

EG

If KSS is #1, then they have to play a FV team, FV #8 - Terry Fox (BC #16)
If SWC is #2, then they have to play a FV team, FV #7 - Pan Ridge (BC #15)
If Oak Bay is #3, then they have to play a FV team, FV #6 - Yale (BC #14)
If Tammy is #4 (& because they are FV #1), they play BC #13 - or the lowest ranked non-FV team - Cowichan (ISL #2)
If Grove is #5 (& because they are FV #2), they play BC#12 - or the next lowest ranked non FV team - North Central #1
If Kits is #6, they play the next lowest ranked FV team - North Surrey (FV #5)
If Mouat is #7, (& because they are FV #3), they play BC #10 - or the nest lowest non-FV team - St Georges (LM 3)
The last 2 teams are Holy Cross & West Van - doesn't matter who is ranked ahead:)

Etc...

Maybe there are additional rule exceptions because of the additional FV team , I don't know. In the spirit of transparency, would be great if someone from BC BBall would confirm. Given the above, it's actually Seeds 4 (Tamanawis) & BC#5 (Walnut Grove) that somehow receive the benefit of playing the lowest-ranked team (at least provincially) rather than seeds 1,2,3 getting the benefit. Maybe it's just the 1st seed that gets an exception - so KSS plays either Cowichan or North Central, & then you start with the new "FV rule" of not playing vs one another. Then SWC would play Terry Fox, Oak Bay would play Panorama Ridge & so on. There would be a few "FV only" games, but life would go on.

Personally, I like your rankings for seeding purposes RockNation. Seems like their should be some value especially for the Top FOUR teams. That would be my ONLY exception. In this case, the best FOUR teams, in their respective regions also happen to be ranked 1-4 provincially. The bottom 4 in my actual rankings would be exactly as you have indicated.


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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:57 pm

Howard had a good article on the upcoming 4A draw, you can see here:
http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/02/28/howies-hoops-manifesto-how-we-should-slot-the-draw-for-the-2016-b-c-boys-4a-tourney/
His rankings were almost right on the money with "RockNation" we'll all see how it turns out on the live draw release on Sunday March 6.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:34 pm

If a true ranking is impossible to do without having teams from the same zone play each other in the first round, it's allowed.
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PostSubject: Seeding over Ranking   Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:42 pm

The tournament will be seeded with the regional placings being the biggest factor.  This is not something I agree with but it apparently is something the coaches have strongly pushed for.  I spoke with Ebe yesterday and he said that at the last AGM there was a lot of discussion about the seeding of the BC's and that the coaches wanted the regional placings to weigh heavily on the draw.  What this means is that the true strength of an area could actually hurt the draw as stronger teams are placed lower in the draw because they come from a stronger area.  This has been a historical problem and does appear to be solved anytime soon.

With this being said you're probably looking at either option 1 or option 2:

OPTION 1
OK 1 - Kelowna
LM 1 - Sir Winston Churchill
VI 1 - Oak Bay
FV 1 - Tamanawis
FV 2 - Walnut Grove
LM 2 - Kitsilano
HS 1 - West Vancouver
FV 3 - W. J. Mouat
LM 3 - St. George's
FV 4 - Holy Cross
FV 5 - North Surrey
VI 2 - Cowichan
NC 1 - North Peace
FV 6 - Yale
FV 7 - Panorama Ridge
FV 8 - Terry Fox

OPTION 2
OK 1 - Kelowna
LM 1 - Sir Winston Churchill
VI 1 - Oak Bay
FV 1 - Tamanawis
FV 2 - Walnut Grove
LM 2 - Kitsilano
FV 3 - W. J. Mouat
LM 3 - St. George's
FV 4 - Holy Cross
HS 1 - West Vancouver
FV 5 - North Surrey
VI 2 - Cowichan
NC 1 - North Peace
FV 6 - Yale
FV 7 - Panorama Ridge
FV 8 - Terry Fox


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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Sportvictoria wrote:
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I think you mean Cowichan for VI#2 not Claremont Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:51 pm

IsiahB wrote:
Sportvictoria wrote:
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I think you mean Cowichan for VI#2 not Claremont Smile


Well I got the C part right Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 3:33 pm

Sportvictoria wrote:
The tournament will be seeded with the regional placings being the biggest factor.  This is not something I agree with but it apparently is something the coaches have strongly pushed for.  I spoke with Ebe yesterday and he said that at the last AGM there was a lot of discussion about the seeding of the BC's and that the coaches wanted the regional placings to weigh heavily on the draw.  What this means is that the true strength of an area could actually hurt the draw as stronger teams are placed lower in the draw because they come from a stronger area.  This has been a historical problem and does appear to be solved anytime soon.

With this being said you're probably looking at either option 1 or option 2:

OPTION 1
OK 1 - Kelowna
LM 1 - Sir Winston Churchill
VI 1 - Oak Bay
FV 1 - Tamanawis
FV 2 - Walnut Grove
LM 2 - Kitsilano
HS 1 - West Vancouver
FV 3 - W. J. Mouat
LM 3 - St. George's
FV 4 - Holy Cross
FV 5 - North Surrey
VI 2 - Cowichan
NC 1 - North Peace
FV 6 - Yale
FV 7 - Panorama Ridge
FV 8 - Terry Fox

OPTION 2
OK 1 - Kelowna
LM 1 - Sir Winston Churchill
VI 1 - Oak Bay
FV 1 - Tamanawis
FV 2 - Walnut Grove
LM 2 - Kitsilano
FV 3 - W. J. Mouat
LM 3 - St. George's
FV 4 - Holy Cross
HS 1 - West Vancouver
FV 5 - North Surrey
VI 2 - Cowichan
NC 1 - North Peace
FV 6 - Yale
FV 7 - Panorama Ridge
FV 8 - Terry Fox



Option 1 makes the most sense. Actually fairly easy draw to create with weight of regions as the most important aspect.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Mon Feb 29, 2016 10:11 pm

There is no way either option makes sense. Basically this is turning into a Fraser valley invitational rather than the Provincial Championships. If option 1 or 2 are select than you basically are disregarding the rankings and head to head play. There is no way Kelowna should be playing the #8 FV team which would be Terry Fox. How is that fair. They are undefeated in regular season and beat everyone in their path and now they don't get the #16 seed but Tamanawis who has had a fair amount of losses 2 to Oak Bay in particular but get a #16 seed. What? That's crazy and totally not fair. What is fair is using all 3 to determine seeds rankings, head to head and regional tournaments. Sure put more emphasis on regional tournaments but don't let it take over. Yes I understand the FV is tough but you can't make a Provincial tournament based on what they want done. Otherwise call it the Fraser valley invitational. Cause it won't be a Provincial Tourney. So some Fraser valley teams have to play each other, big deal, if your the best team you have to play the best to win anyway. Just follow what the NCAA does and rank teams, based on rankings, head to head and regional, then no body will complain except for the FV. But it's the only fair way and that's what counts. I am really hoping there is a panel of 12 people that can hash this thing out and hopefully of those 12 people 6 of them are not from FV. It seems easy for me and even Howard gets it. So hopefully the Basketball minds in the war room get it.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Mar 02, 2016 2:52 am

RockNation wrote:
There is no way either option makes sense. Basically this is turning into a Fraser valley invitational rather than the Provincial Championships. If option 1 or 2 are select than you basically are disregarding the rankings and head to head play. There is no way Kelowna should be playing the #8 FV team which would be Terry Fox. How is that fair. They are undefeated in regular season and beat everyone in their path and now they don't get the #16 seed but Tamanawis who has had a fair amount of losses 2 to Oak Bay in particular but get a #16 seed. What? That's crazy and totally not fair. What is fair is using all 3 to determine seeds rankings, head to head and regional tournaments. Sure put more emphasis on regional tournaments but don't let it take over. Yes I understand the FV is tough but you can't make a Provincial tournament based on what they want done. Otherwise call it the Fraser valley invitational. Cause it won't be a Provincial Tourney. So some Fraser valley teams have to play each other, big deal, if your the best team you have to play the best to win anyway. Just follow what the NCAA does and rank teams, based on rankings, head to head and regional, then no body will complain except for the FV. But it's the only fair way and that's what counts. I am really hoping there is a panel of 12 people that can hash this thing out and hopefully of those 12 people 6 of them are not from FV. It seems easy for me and even Howard gets it. So hopefully the Basketball minds in the war room get it.


The draw has historically avoided first round match-ups from the same zone.

REPEATED FROM EARLIER
The tournament will be seeded with the regional placings being the biggest factor.  This is not something I agree with but it apparently is something the coaches have strongly pushed for.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Mar 02, 2016 5:52 pm

Just so everyone can see I have listed below our association's ranking guidelines:
BCHSBBA RANKING GUIDELINES FOR PROVINCIAL TOURNAMENTS

1. Teams from the same zone shall not play against each other in the first round unless this is not possible based on the numbers of berths or if it will negatively distort the true rankings

2. Order of finish in zone tournaments. It is preferential but not mandatory that teams are ranked in order of zone tournament placing

3. Zone winners will be the top ranked team in their zone and may be receive a higher overall ranking as a result of winning their zone championship

4. Head to head competition between teams if they have played against each other may also be considered

5. Using the official BCHSBBA rankings


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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Mar 02, 2016 6:01 pm

having 8 teams qualify from the same Zone for the provincial tournemanet, how on earth can you take regional placings into play?
its not a matter of seeding as much as lets get as many of our zone into the medal rounds.

teams work hard all season to get an advantage, so why would it be fair for the top teams all year get no advangeate and lesser teams get preferable treatment based on region.

under the two options suggested, the 4th, 5th seed gets easy opening game without earing it. again the FV rule seems to get the consideration.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:54 pm

Let's also face some facts - Fraser Valley is the power region, by far. If KSS weren't so good, you could make a case for nearly every seed having an opportunity to win. Panorama Ridge is FV #7 & they lost to Tamanawis by 2.

I agree with you, especially with the fact the Top 3 seeds essentially not benefiting from their outstanding seasons. Maybe there will be an exception or 2, but someone is not going to be happy. My gut tells me it will be Oak Bay, & to a lesser extent Sir Winston Churchill. Both should win, but it wouldn't be a crazy upset either.

KSS will play Cowichan * last seed on Island, likely #15 in real rankings. No one wants to see KSS vs North Peace. No one.
SWC will play Terry Fox *last seed in FV, likely #13 in real rankings. Fox can't score, SWC can score alot
Oak Bay will play Panorama Ridge * 7th seed in FV. 1st Upset special.
Tamanawis will play North Peace * Lowest Regional winner (& no FV vs FV )
Walnut Grove will play St Georges *last seed in LM - LM3. Upset special #2
Kits will play Yale *FV 6 - has to be FV team. Upset Special #3
Mouat will play West Van - HS 1 * I seeded WV higher than St Georges because they were regional champs (& St Georges was last in LM)
Holy Cross plays North Surrey - *only FV teams left

I guess you could have SWC play North Central, but that would mean yet another FV vs FV match-up, which the powers that be don't want. I suppose you could also have WGSS play West Van (instead of St Georges) but I was respecting the fact that they won their region & St Georges was LM 3.

#4 Tamanawis & #7 Moaut get the "real" lowest ranked teams. Just my gut.

Given a 16 team tourney, with the strength & numbers from the FV, if you are a non-FV team, get used to playing a strong FV team in the 1st round. Unless you are #1 (& there is an exception), chances are about 100% you are playing a good FV team.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:36 am

Sportvictoria wrote:
Who's qualified for the BC's?
62 out of 64 decided.

http://sportvictoria.com/basketball/BCBerthing/2016/2016BCBerthing.htm

4A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 1.780... 2... 7 --- (Vancouver Island 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Oak Bay
2 Cowichan
- No challenge game
HS... 1.271... 1... 5 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 West Vancouver
LM... 3.305... 3... 13 --- (Lower Mainland 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Sir Winston Churchill
2 Kitsilano
3 St. George's

FV... 7.373... 8... 29 --- (Fraser Valley 8 OFFICIAL)
1 Tamanawis
2 Walnut Grove
3 W. J. Mouat
4 Holy Cross
5 North Surrey
6 Yale
7 Panorama Ridge
8 Terry Fox

OK... 1.271... 1... 5 --- (Okanagan 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelowna
NC... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 North Peace

KT... NA... 0... 1 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
MOUNT BAKER has forfeited their berth - after recalculation the extra berth went to FV.
NW... NA... 0... 0 --- (North West 0 OFFICIAL)
NO TEAM

3A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 2.882... 3... 14 --- (Vancouver Island 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Wellington
2 Nanaimo
3 Mark Isfeld

HS... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Bodwell
LM... 3.706... 4... 18 --- (Lower Mainland 4 OFFICIAL)
1 Steveston-London
2 St. Thomas More
3 Lord Byng
4 Matthew McNair

FV... 4.324... 4... 21 --- (Fraser Valley 4 OFFICIAL)
1-2 Rick Hansen
1-2 Southridge
3-4
3-4

OK... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (Okanagan 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Valleyview
NC... 1.029... 1... 5 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Duchess Park
NW... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Charles Hays
KT... NA... 1... 2 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 L. V. Rogers


2A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 3.018... 3... 13 --- (Vancouver Island 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Lambrick Park
2 St. Michaels
3 Shawnigan Lake

HS... 1.393... 2... 6 --- (Howe Sound 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Collingwood
2 St. Thomas Aquinas
LM... 2.321... 2... 10 --- (Lower Mainland 2 OFFICIAL)
1 St. Patrick's
2 Cambie

FV... 3.946... 4... 17 --- (Fraser Valley 4 OFFICIAL)
1 G. W. Graham
2 Pacific Academy
3 Abbotsford Christian
4 Delview

OK... 2.321... 2... 10 --- (Okanagan 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Southern Okanagan
2 Westsyde
- Challenge game by Westsyde on Tuesday March 1 @ Sa-Hali - Westsyde wins challenge game, 49-34, over Sa-Hali
NC... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North Central 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelly Rd
NW... AUTO... 1... 2 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Smithers
KT... AUTO... 1... 3 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Prince Charles

1A
Region... Breakdown... Berths... Teams
VI... 1.836... 2... 8 --- (Vancouver Island 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Duncan Christian
2 St. Andrew's
Challenge game Sunday 4:00 p.m. St. Andrew's vs Gold River @ Duncan Christian - St. Andrew's wins challenge game, 65-42, over Gold River
HS... AUTO... 1... 3 --- (Howe Sound 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Mulgrave
LM... 1.836... 2... 8 --- (Lower Mainland 2 OFFICIAL)
1 West Point Grey
2 Deer Lake

FV... 2.754... 3... 12 --- (Fraser Valley 3 OFFICIAL)
1 Credo Christian
2 Unity Christian
3 BC Christian

OK... 3.902... 4... 17 --- (Okanagan 4 OFFICIAL)
1 Kelowna Christian
2 St. Ann's
3 Osoyoos
4 Immaculata
Challenge game, by Similkameen, on Monday Feb 29 - Immaculata wins challenge game, 73-66, over Similkameen
NC... 2.525... 2... 11 --- (North Central 2 OFFICIAL)
1 Ron Pettigrew Christian
2 Lakes District

NW... AUTO... 1... 4 --- (North West 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Bulkley Valley Christian
KT... 1.148... 1... 5 --- (Kootenay 1 OFFICIAL)
1 Sparwood


Abby and Bateman last 2 teams to qualify for the BC's. Valley just have to seed those 2 and Hansen and Southridge. Then Sunday 1pm to find out when everyone plays
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:35 pm

What time do Abby and Bateman play? Heard both teams have stepped up their game. Should be a tight game!! Keep us posted
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:48 pm

RonTheMan wrote:
What time do Abby and Bateman play?  Heard both teams have stepped up their game.  Should be a tight game!!  Keep us posted



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PostSubject: Sports Victoria   Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:27 pm

Just a shout out to Sports Victoria and all the effort you have done all these years to keep the rest of the province informed about high school basketball. Even when we don't agree.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sun Mar 06, 2016 6:35 pm

OK, so it happened. They changed the name of the 4A Provincials to the Fraser Valley Invitational!! Wow crazy I know. Wow incredible what a name. Imagine that if your from the Fraser Valley you don't have to play each other in the 1st round, wow, that's so cool. Awesome. Those poor other teams like Kelowna, SWC, Oak Bay wonder how they feel about this. They should create there own Invitationals. This is by far one of the worst draws I have ever witnessed in sports ever!!! How does a team like Kelowna kill everyone in their path this year yet end up playing Terry Fox who is a pretty good team but not a #16 team like North Peace. How, why, I tell you why cause of a stupid outdated clause that says no team for any zone can play in the 1st round. So guess what FV has 8 teams this year, so they automatically get the best draws. Wow really. How about putting on our big boy pants and been true to the rankings like Howard has, or myself or sportvictoria and a few other people. How about rank teams where they are actually supposed to be ranked. This is an outrage. Almost worst than Trump running for president. How in the world does Kelowna play TF, SWC play Panarama, Oak Bay play Yale in the 1st round really. Omg! Kelowna has earned the right to play North Peace #16, SWC has earned the right to play #14 Cowichan or #15 West Van, Oak Bay has earned the right to play a #14 seed. What in the world has happened. Oak Bay Beat Tamanawis not once, but twice both in Vancouver and yet Tamanawis ends up with a higher seed and the best draw in the tournament. How over a stupid rule! Of course they will change the rule after this year, but I feel for the teams that have been screwed. Anyway I love the new name it's catchy! Maybe just maybe teams will wake up and Boycott the event until a fair, justified ranking for all is implemented.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:02 pm

Have to agree whole heartedly with RockNation. The powers that made up this draw need to explain how they can truly justify this debacle. The biggest loser in all this is Oak Bay #3,SWC #2 and then KSS #1. Big winners Tammy and Mouet. If I were Panarama ridge or Terry Fox. I Would not be happy either.
Tammy loses 2 games to Oak Bay and still gets higher seed and the best outcome draw. WOW.

There is no point in teams playing 3 months of ball to earn a top ranking, only to get screwed in favor of a Power Zone. Might as well just have the Fraser Valley play a zone tourney for top 8 teams in Feb. and the rest of province play for other top 8 seeds. Then meet following week. Call it the Fraser Valley Provincial Championships.
If a FV team doesn't meet in opening round then the odds of them getting more teams to 1/4 finals, semis and finals are great for LEC. Who also benefits by higher gate attendance. As one person put it, who would want to watch KSS play North Central.
Nothing will change. Sad.
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PostSubject: Re: Who's qualified for the BC's? All 64 teams decided.   Sun Mar 06, 2016 8:47 pm

Whoever did this draw certainly did not have the gumption to decide that a great tournament was the priority.
An outdated guideline that clearly would make the right matchups impossible was selected because it was the easy way out.
Oak Bay got the ultimate shaft. They must be furious.
Kelowna, after their fabulous season doesn't get the 16 seed??? Incredible.
All the teams in the top echelon have played each other multiple times all season. Being from the same zone should be less and less a consideration as there are fewer teams in each division and sometimes teams from different zones play each other more times than teams from the same zone. Let's get rid of a rule that really is a detriment.
This should have been about making the best tournament possible and that clearly did not happen.
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