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oldman



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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:28 pm

Same as guys - I just copied this over to the main thread:

4A Girls Ranking #1

1 JP
2 PK
3 BC
4 Magrath
5 LCI
6 Cenn
7 Western
8 Cardston
9 SACH
10 Foothills
HM ST Mary, Chestermere, Leduc, Raymond, Archbishop McDonald

My thoughts based on what I've seen & what others have conveyed:

1.  JP & Kane are about right.  Both strong.  I still think Kane has a higher ceiling.
2.  Carroll is too high.  They're strong, but Centennial looks better.
3.  Magrath deserves a ranking.  Their LCI game will sort out whether they belong above them.
4.  Big drop off from top 6 to Western.  Better with Claire (Grade 12 post) back, but I don't see them beating top 6.
5.  Not much to say after that...  8-10 and HMs look fair.  Maybe Raymond cracks the top 10? Maybe Francis or Med Hat could get an HM?  I don't know about Archbishop MacDonald - have they beat anyone good?
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Sun Feb 04, 2018 12:15 pm

This weekend’s notable results:

#2 Paul Kane def #10 Foothills by 13
#4 Magrath def #9 SACHS by 16
#4 Magrath def HM Raymond by 17
#5 LCI def #4 Magrath by 2
#5 LCI def #7 Western by 5
#8 Cardston def #2 Paul Kane by 18
#8 Cardston def HM St Marys by 17
#8 Cardston def NR Aberhart by 1
#9 SACHS def #3 Bishop Carroll by 4
HM Raymond def #3 Bishop Carroll by 2
HM Raymond def #7 Western by 8
NR Aberhart def #10 Foothills by 12

If new rankings came out today, the South would have 4 in the top 10 and 3 in the top 5. Western’s tournament this week with LCI and JP in the draw will be very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:27 pm

trifecta3 wrote:
This weekend’s notable results:

#2 Paul Kane def #10 Foothills by 13
#4 Magrath def #9 SACHS by 16
#4 Magrath def HM Raymond by 17
#5 LCI def #4 Magrath by 2
#5 LCI def #7 Western by 5
#8 Cardston def #2 Paul Kane by 18
#8 Cardston def HM St Marys by 17
#8 Cardston def NR Aberhart by 1
#9 SACHS def #3 Bishop Carroll by 4
HM Raymond def #3 Bishop Carroll by 2
HM Raymond def #7 Western by 8
NR Aberhart def #10 Foothills by 12

If new rankings came out today, the South would have 4 in the top 10 and 3 in the top 5.  Western’s tournament this week with LCI and JP in the draw will be very interesting.

Things to consider - where we these games played? Home games for South teams are totally different than playing in Calgary or Edmonton. Further, I'd ask about line-ups - there's been some tournament games where key players have been missing for certain teams.

Still, the South is certainly looking strong... and I stand by my assertion that Carroll & Western in Calgary may be ranked too high.

No interesting games in Calgary this week... In Edmonton, Leduc plays MacDonald & Kane. Should help determine who the 4th team in Edmonton is. Cardston vs Raymond in the South...
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Fri Feb 09, 2018 3:08 pm

What's up with these Raymond girls? Why are they only ranked an HM?!?

They're undefeated in League play.

They've beat:
Beat #4 Magrath by 9
Beat #5 LCI by 41
Beat #8 Cardston by 10
Beat #3 BC by 2
Beat #7 Western by 8 and then by 5 again.
Beat #1 JP by 1 in the opening round of Western Canada tournament.

If beating 4 of the top 5 teams in the province doesn't boost your ranking up to at least #2 if not #1, then I don't know what will. I think the Province has got a new front-runner.
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Fri Feb 09, 2018 5:29 pm

Raymond is playing great. Prior to the last rankings, they had a 5 point loss to Foothills, a 20 point loss to Cardston and a 6 point loss to LCI.

Last weekend they lost to Magrath in the LCI tournament by 17, and then LCI beat Magrath in the final.

I don't envy the rankers job in this next round of rankings. Everything is literally up in the air considering these last two weekends. Many teams have key players missing, but I'm not sure if the rankers take that into account or not.
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:27 pm

Results from 2nd ranking period will make this the most difficult period to rank in recent memory as differing styles have meant that match-ups are giving conflicting and sometimes surprising results. Raymond girls will move up considerably, based on last few weeks, yet they lost by 30 in final of RIT yesterday to BC. With them moving up to the top 10, someone has to go down out of the top 10, and I think it will be Foothills.

Very competitive year across the whole province and the different styles (i.e zone vs man), have made it interesting to watch. I think that the 3 big zones each have 3 very strong teams (might have to say 4 now in the South), and then there is considerable drop off after that. The question is if the 4th and 5th teams in one of these big zones are better than the 4th and 5th place teams in the other big zones--this will be key in ultimately deciding who gets the wild cards for provincials.

Rankings posted on Friday-- will be interesting to see, but ultimately, while they are important for awarding provincial wildcards to specific zones, that isnt relevant under the March 1 ranking.
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:06 pm

oldman wrote:
trifecta3 wrote:
This weekend’s notable results:

#2 Paul Kane def #10 Foothills by 13
#4 Magrath def #9 SACHS by 16
#4 Magrath def HM Raymond by 17
#5 LCI def #4 Magrath by 2
#5 LCI def #7 Western by 5
#8 Cardston def #2 Paul Kane by 18
#8 Cardston def HM St Marys by 17
#8 Cardston def NR Aberhart by 1
#9 SACHS def #3 Bishop Carroll by 4
HM Raymond def #3 Bishop Carroll by 2
HM Raymond def #7 Western by 8
NR Aberhart def #10 Foothills by 12

If new rankings came out today, the South would have 4 in the top 10 and 3 in the top 5.  Western’s tournament this week with LCI and JP in the draw will be very interesting.

Things to consider - where we these games played?  Home games for South teams are totally different than playing in Calgary or Edmonton.  Further, I'd ask about line-ups - there's been some tournament games where key players have been missing for certain teams.

Still, the South is certainly looking strong...  and I stand by my assertion that Carroll & Western in Calgary may be ranked too high.

No interesting games in Calgary this week...  In Edmonton, Leduc plays MacDonald & Kane.  Should help determine who the 4th team in Edmonton is.  Cardston vs Raymond in the South...

I guess the weekend's results just add to what's been said...

Raymond looked great beating JP & Western, but were dominated by Carroll. Carroll has looked unimpressive of late, but beating Chestemere, LCI & a 30 point win over Raymond speaks volumes. Just as I say they're not so good, they make me look like a putz.

Raymond is definitely in the mix, but the rankings are tough. So many teams play up or play down depending on their competition, injuries, fouls, chemistry, etc... and any team in the top 6 can beat each other. I also maintain that location plays a big role. Games in the South can be really tough - the home crowd gives a big advantage to Cardston/Raymond/Magrath.

Big games in Calgary this week:

Francis vs Mary's tonight.
Western vs Centennial tomorrow.

Big games in Edmonton this week:

Kane vs SACHS
Kane vs JP
Leduc vs SACHS

Big games in the South this week:

LCI vs Cardston
LCI vs Magrath

Will they be in time for the next ranking?

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PostSubject: girls rankings    Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:04 pm

here is my guess at the second girls ranking
1. JP overall still best record
2. Magrath two loses and have beat both teams they have lost to
3. Bishop Carrol weird time frame to figure out good wins and also some loses
4. Raymond as impressive amount of wins as anybody in this time frame
5. Paul Kane bad lost to Cardston still good team
6 LCI not much between any team in the top this year it seems
7. Cenntenial don't know what tournaments they have been in other than own and JP so not a lot of results to go on suppose to maybe be best team in Calgary though
8. Cardston pretty good team but look like 4 in south this year
9. SACHS getting healthy but results don't show that they belong above other teams yet
10. Western look like the team that is the marker point
HM Leduc, St Marys, Foothills, Chestermere, Med Hat
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Tue Feb 13, 2018 12:14 am

Westwind’s guess is about what I would have guessed.
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PostSubject: My guess at rankings   Tue Feb 13, 2018 1:48 pm

This is what I think it should be, but I predict it will look a little different.

1. JP - still look good, but not head and shoulders ahead.
2. Raymond - Much better than I thought.
3. Centennial - I still think they're the power in Calgary.
4. Magrath - Geez the South is strong this year.
5. Carroll - Better, but still inconsistent.
6. LCI - How crazy is it that a team as strong as LCI is 6?
7. Kane - How crazy is it that a team as strong as Kane is 7?
8. Cardston - Not consistently as strong as Raymond, Magrath or LCI, but still can beat anyone.
9. SACHS - Darkhorse, but beatable by top 7-8
10. Western - Still solid, but can't keep up with Centennial or Carroll. Could get beat by Mary's.

HM - Foothills, Leduc, St. Mary's, one more?

Both Foothills & Chestemere look like they're falling off, and I still don't understand how Archbishop McDonald got a HM. Med Hat is not on par with the top 4 in the South. Maybe Aberhart or Francis could get the last HM?
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PostSubject: rankings    Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:26 pm

yeah I should have put abe and St. Francis as the other HM
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Wed Feb 14, 2018 2:42 pm

Centennial just beat Western in league play in Calgary, and Kane beat SACHS & Leduc in Edmonton. It's too late for the next rankings, but...

Upcoming notables:

Calgary:
Next week:
Francis vs Abe (call it the HM Bowl)
Centennial vs Carroll
BoB tournament has some decent teams (Centennial, Abe, Francis, Foothills)

Edmonton:
JP vs Kane tonight
Next week:
JP vs SACHS
Kane vs MacDonald
Leduc vs SACHS

South:
Magrath vs LCI tonight
Cardston vs Magrath this weekend
Raymond vs Cardston next week

It's so busy this time of year, half of it comes down to momentum & who stays healthy. Provincials should be great this year, after the 'coronations' of the last two seasons.
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PostSubject: actually rankings    Yesterday at 12:11 pm

1 Jasper Place, Edmonton Edmonton Metro
2 Bishop Carroll, Calgary Calgary
3 Magrath School, Magrath South
4 Paul Kane High, St. Albert Edmonton Metro
5 Raymond High, Raymond South
6 Lethbridge Collegiate Institute, Lethbridge South
7 Centennial High School, Calgary Calgary
8 Cardston High, Cardston South
9 Western Canada, Calgary Calgary
10 St. Albert Catholic High, St. Albert Edmonton Metro
Honorable Mentions
Foothills Composite, Okotoks South Central
Leduc Composite, Leduc Edmonton Metro
William Aberhart, Calgary Calgary
St. Mary (Calgary), Calgary Calgary
Medicine Hat High, Medicine Hat south
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PostSubject: Re: 2017-18 4A Girls Predictions   Yesterday at 12:16 pm

BC surprised me being second but overall considering the mess looks pretty good
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