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PostSubject: Re: Big trouble for Burnaby South   Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:30 pm

Baller you have taken my comment out of context. Not pointing at anyone specifically rather as an observation of what has happened in the past and still does happen.
I am not saying this is wrong either, if the school system allows for hardship or some other conditions that great it is not a bad thing. Just more of a comment that the rule as quoted is not as cut and dried as indicated.
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PostSubject: The Burnaby South juggernaught moves on!!   Thu Mar 10, 2011 3:03 am

Interesting how this has gone.
Why did Best wait til 20+ transfers to say something?
Did he know the subject would get swept under the rug despite all including coachb comments on Burnaby South recruiting exploits.

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Great recruiting from early grades.

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So coachb you see why people are having a hard time seeing your point of view as you contradict yourself. You alluded to coaches complaining and wanting their cake too. Which one is it? Great recruiting, sour grapes or you forgot what you posted earlier and have changed your mind?

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So face facts there are several high school coaches or associates around the lower mainland that run club teams/leagues at early levels. From Surrey, Pitt Meadows, Port Coquitlam, Burnaby etc. Is it recruiting when these young players chose to switch catchment areas to play with their "new buddies" from these high school programs? Too much it seems some coaches want their "cake" but get really offended when others seem to be getting more. Here the coach from one school who has been very vocal about players being able to chose even when they are past grade 10 cries foul one another. Several coaches have been trying to change this through various proposals but have been defeated.
Look around something needs to change.

I am not sure if Coach Best has done anything for the recruiting cause but reading this article in what he says is interesting. I am not seeing him championing any cause to defeat Ebe's motion just stating the obvious.

Subject: Re: Recruits/transfers Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:48 am


That transfer-prep school motion about having another provincial venue apart from the one at the Agrodome has been defeated. Here is the article Tsumura wrote on it:

By Howard Tsumura

The Vancouver Province

VANCOUVER -- A motion to create a new provincial championship subdivision within B.C.'s largest senior boys basketball tier was narrowly defeated Saturday afternoon at the B.C. High School Boys Basketball Association's annual general meeting.

Yet despite the vote, those behind the proposal to stage a second Triple-A B.C. tournament based on the number of transfer-in players, say their event will likely still be staged in some form in 2011.

A transfer-in player is defined as a student who is attending and playing at a school where he did not start his Grade 8 year, or in the case of middle schools, where he did not start his Grade 9 year. The proposal stated that any senior Triple A team with two or fewer transfer-in players could choose to participate, if it qualifies, in a provincial championship tournament seperate from the one staged annually at the PNE Agrodome

"There are a lot of coaches that want to see this happen and it would run along the exact same lines as an invitational tournament," said Richmond-R.C. Palmer head coach, one of those supporting the motion. "So if the coaches want to, we'll potentially run one the week before (the Telus B.C. championships). The fact that it did not pass gives us an opportunity to almost run a test tournament and learn from our mistakes. We'll see how it goes and ultimately if we do that and people don't want it, then we're fine."

The proposal, formulated and put forward at the AGM by longtime Maple Ridge Ramblers head coach Ken Dockendorf, created lively and emotional debate among those in attendance and ultimately was quashed by a 23-20 vote.
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The debate also brought up many of the issues surrounding the issue of transfer players, and Wayne Best, head coach of Burnaby's Byrne Creek Bulldogs, asked a fundamental question that still needs answering.

"Ultimately, everything we do has to be for the kids," said Best, who was honored this past week as the 2010 winner of the BCHSBBA's prestigious Ken Wright Coaching Award. "We need to have a deeper understanding of why kids transfer and we haven't even explored that yet. We need to talk to kids who have transferred."
Eberhardt felt that so much good came out of the AGM.

"I have big visions," he said. "I would like to see an actual coaching association formed where we all support, argue and fight for the things that we think are in the best interest of our student athletes. I think this meeting was a big step forward because this kind of discussion hasn't happened at our meeting in probably 10 years. And this meeting needs to be a place where coaches feel comfortable to share their ideas and for that, I am encouraged, not discouraged by today's vote."

What are your thoughts on the state of high school basketball in B.C. at both the boys and girls levels?

We'd love to hear your thoughts on any number of issues:

Let us know what you think the solution to the transfer issue is?

Can public and private schools continue to co-exist in the same leagues?

What are the pros and cons of players coming out of the middle school system versus elementary school?

Does the format of the boys or girls B.C. championships need to be revamped?

Would you like to see boys and girls Triple A B.C. tournaments played at the same venue like Double A?

Log on to provincesports.com, click on the 'High School' icon and look for the 'State of the Game' headline. There, you can post your thoughts on current state of B.C. high school basketball. All opinions expressed in a clear and respectful manner will be published

Eagleball started this post expecting trouble because admitting that everyone cheats including Burnaby South then accusing the Byrne coach of cheating but not saying who when and where. Read the topic on recruiting and transfers, his team is very absent from the converstation with specific players and schools mentioned.
I watched that Byrne Creek team play this year and if he recruited, oh what a useless job he did recruiting 5'10 guards who continuously turnover the ball. I much prefer the job Eagles did to have all 5 positions covered.

I still have a vested interest in this game but not enough to coach anymore.
What is going on in the Lower Mainland Zone? All this griping about 2 privates playing in the 12 team AAA Zone tournament then in AA 8 team tournament there are 3 private schools.


Go South Burnaby Eagles Go oops I mean go Burnaby South Rebels go!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Big trouble for Burnaby South   Thu Mar 10, 2011 7:58 pm

Shouldn't this be dealt with before the Provincials start?
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PostSubject: Re: Big trouble for Burnaby South   Thu Mar 10, 2011 8:38 pm

DesiBaller wrote:
Shouldn't this be dealt with before the Provincials start?

It has been dealt with.

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